Ana Elsa warmly introduces her guests from Spain: 博士. 卢扬科马斯, a physician specialized in anesthesiology and integrative therapies, 和博士. 泽维尔·梅洛, an economist and consciousness researcher—both representatives of the Icloby Foundation.
The intention is clear: to continue weaving networks of research, awareness, and humanity.
Xavier says:
“Twenty years ago, they said we were crazy, that we’d be sued. 今天, the leading hospitals in Spain are investigating this.”
“There’s never been such a large Spanish-language study. Maybe even in the world.”
Luján and Xavier openly invite those who wish to join the Luz Project and collaborate from hospitals—including in Mexico.
Thus begins an intimate and expansive conversation, one that not only informs but invites action, collaboration, and the pursuit of a science with soul.
“How could we not share these stories, when every one of them brought us to tears?”
This is how Xavier Melo describes the emotional origin of 超越生活的生活, a project that was initially titled God’s Embraces, where each chapter is a profound encounter with the transcendent.
“Even if just one of these cases touches your soul… it’s enough to change your life.”
From mothers who intuit the sudden death of a child, to doctors who collect stories science cannot explain, the book is, in Luján’s words, “an act of love to share and give hope.”
“These people are medically dead, and yet they feel more alive than ever.”
Luján explains that many Near-Death Experiences (濒死体验) arise in clinically verified contexts: the heart and brain have stopped, yet patients report lucid visions, overwhelming peace, unconditional love, and the presence of loved ones.
“They know things about the present and the future. They can see, hear, and feel in an expanded state of consciousness that can’t be explained through a materialist model.”
Both agree: these stories challenge and transform how we see life, death, and purpose.
“It’s not just about science. It’s about humanity, 舒适, and meaning.”
“You see your life like a movie—but from the eyes of the other. You feel what you made others feel, and all you want is to go back and make it right.”
Xavier reveals the personal experience behind his motivation:
“I had an NDE. And although I tried to go back to who I was before… you never really can.”
That moment became his impulse to investigate, to share, and to build bridges between science and the transcendent.
After years of institutional rejection, they say the landscape has changed dramatically:
“They used to call us crazy. 今天, Spain’s top hospitals are studying consciousness.”
“The transcendent side of the human being can no longer be hidden.”
“When You Return, You’re Not the Same”
That’s how Xavier Melo describes the inner transformation after an NDE.
In that state, one feels connected with everything: the air, others, life itself.
And that certainty—“Now I know“—arrives like a whisper that changes you forever.
卢扬, who worked as an anesthesiologist for over three decades, confirms:
“I’ve seen stopped hearts, brains without oxygen, bodies without circulation… and yet, consciousness remained.”
“What are we, if not more than a body? There’s something that gives it life. And when it leaves, everything stops.”
From Grief to Love
“Everything that happens to us in life is meant to bring out the best in us.”
Having accompanied thousands of deaths, Luján often asks:
“Why do some survive when all signs point to death, and others leave when they seem healthy?”
Her answer: there are soul agreements, timings we don’t understand, and deaths that transform us—even when they hurt.
The Heart as Compass
“The heart never lies. It’s connected vertically.”
Beyond the mind, the heart beats with wisdom.
It doesn’t just feel—it also thinks.
With 40,000 neurons, it produces neurotransmitters, and its electromagnetic field is 5,000 times stronger than the brain’s.
“Health begins in the heart.”
When illness appears, Luján says, “life must be re-evaluated,” returning to love, presence, and what’s essential.
They Continue… and We Awaken
“That comfort doesn’t erase the pain, but it brings peace. And peace is the closest we get to joy after great loss.”
Sometimes, departed loved ones come to receive us.
A baby with his grandfather. An aunt who died while you were unconscious. A child who sees a woman without an aura… and she dies minutes later.
For Luján, often the soul leaves before the physical accident even occurs.
Children as Bridges Between Worlds
Children with a dominant right brain can see what adults have forgotten.
Luján and Xavier are already working on a second book focused on children.
From Pain to Love: The True Miracle
“All the stories of people who overcame grief share one thing in common: their pain turned into love.”
“How do you overcome pain? By giving love. How do you integrate an NDE? By sharing it.”
From Ego to Soul: The Path Toward the Transcendent
“The world is chaotic, but the only path is love.”
A Book Written with Tears… and Hope
“We cried while writing it. And we cried again while reading it.”
“It’s not about detachment, but about trust:”
—Trusting that the soul continues its journey.
—Trusting that love does not die.
—Trusting that we can keep loving… even from this side.
A Hope That Expands
“These aren’t isolated cases.”
Millions have experienced the same truth:
That death is not the end—but a threshold to return.
“We want to present the book in Mexico, organize a major conference, and share this hope inspired by God’s embraces.”
“Thank you for listening. We are always at your service.”
Because this is not just about understanding death—
It’s about living life with greater awareness,
greater love,
and a deep certainty that everything has meaning,
and that—even in the darkness—
we are never alone.